I was upset that alex chiu shut down his board after all the posts I made there.
Nim and myself are busy creating a new site jamesdvd.com to sell DVD
together because there is a little action in the superiching world now.

and the iching is not giving me good prediction for a month.

so I do tarot now. kind of break from the lines and hexagram. don't worry I'll be back.

when jamesdvd is down
you can see predictions here:

http://therealityroyals.net/cgi/royalboard/Blah.pl?

tarots are the root of movies and DVD, a visual story telling.

Shai:

Just a note. Are you changing your times to Beijing times for the readings?

UK Anon Hotmail User

yes I always use beijing time only.

You tried using local time instead? ( And if not, why not? )

UK Anon Hotmail User

two years ago I did for some time, but never since then.
alex explained why using beijing time only on his site, and
was quite convincing

but you never know with chiu... he is not the most reliable person.

I am waiting until more reliable person (someone like you) will write i-ching
book the way it was written in china.

Actually, I already have written stuff about the "Wen Wang" and "Five Elements" style in the last three years. It's just you can't get a hold of it unless you were the Uni I was at.

Personally, the I-Ching is already translated well to English. The Wilheim edition is certainly accurate enough of a direct translation for I-Ching. However, the "Super I Ching" method that Alex exposed most of you to, is (IMHO) heavily misunderstood. And possibly diluted in some ways (not all of it, just some). For a start, it's as I sometimes said, a "Fortune Tellers" method. No real books were written till recently.

As far as I know, Alex's explanation for one time zone for all of China is a little flawed. As it goes against the very principle of Yin and Yang (which the I Ching itself is based partly about! )

Person 1 in China: "Oh hey, it's freakin hot right now in'it?"
Person 2 in Sahara: "Why? It might be a friggin desert outside, but it's the middle of the night!"
Person 1 in China: "Hey, here in China, it's midday, hot and sunny. Obviously we're right and you're wrong. Because we took over the world. So you had to follow out time. If it's lunch for us, it's lunch for everyone. No matter where you are."

This isn't sound. Logically it isn't sound. Heck, it goes against nature itself. On a sphere, there is bound to be one part dark and one part light (Or whatever else you want to use, Yin and Yang, White and Black, etc.) Where did we judge time from? The Sun. If the Sun is directly overhead, it's bloody midday and bloomin hot for us. Not midnight and really cold. Yin may contain and bring about Yang, but it certainly isn't Yang. Not at the same time most certainly. In a perfect world, yes, this, I suppose, could be possible. But this is our reality. And this just isn't possible.

Sure, you might say that the time devised is Chinese, so logically it must use China's time to convert to. But think again. It would still leave a time difference for us (see previous statment). I'm in the UK. So even if China's time is 0, I would still need to do +8 hours to get the "right" time. And if we think about it, doing the +8 is not the same as happening in 8 hours time for me (which will bring me in time with China's time).

For example, my baby girl was born exactly midday 12pm. But she was born in a country that is 12 hours later according to time zones. So instead of being midday, it's midnight. Damn I never knew that the middle of the night will have the Sun directly over my head and have the environment around me at a scorching 40 degrees C and so full of things deemed to be "Yang" wise. While my niece who is born in China that is 12 hours ahead of us, it born midnight. Quite as a mouse, and cool air, with very little movement. That sounds right. Why not the other way around? Special case? Not in the I-Ching there isn't. It uses the principles of Yin and Yang. There is no special case.

The Chinese, nor China, is the master or center of the I-Ching. To say this is to make the entire principle of the I-Ching wrong. If the French discovered the I-Ching and conquered all of the World, is the French time correct? The Germans? British? American? Australian? What if the British and the Chinese discovered it at the same time? Who's time should be use then? British? Chinese? Neither? I surely can't be both. Say I was in between both places. Do I use local, British modified, or Chinese modified time?

The current date and time conversion is a hold over from old tradition and not sound. It's the same with Four Pillars (to which a LOT of super I Ching is tied to), and even Zi Wei (Purple Star) which actually uses Lunar dates, but still Solar time.

In Hong Kong and a LOT of China's areas. A LOT of fortune tellers and diviners convert to China's time. Which is wrong. I even got the nod from Four Pillar masters, and a guy named "Blind Man Chan" (Convert to Chinese and say it and you might know this name) in agreement. Some say he cheats somewhat in divination (saying he isn't truly blind etc.), but agree he does have some skill in use of "Wen Wang" style I Ching gua. I have also found Master Joseph Yu (from the Canadian Feng Shui Research Center) also agree's with the local time deal and not to convert to China's time. He even goes as far as saying China did infact use different time zones(!) and showed evidence of this. If we talk about experience, if my 4/5 years of "Super I Ching" isn't enough. Then I'm sure the proper masters that I have listed, who have the region of 10 years each, if not more, should be more than enough to say whether to change to or not.

Try local time.

UK Anon Hotmail User

Note: Could be some mistakes mathematically speaking in my post here, but I think I got the majority of it right. Essentially, use local time. If it changes time locally, eg, in the UK we have BST (British Summer Time), where we add +1 hours to the time during the summer. So if during this time, we will have to convert. If it's 14:00 BST, it's 13:00 normal time.

my friend Hao Jiang (who wrote the java script hexagram generator) is now using
local time. alex was mad on him because of this. there was greater fight with alex in the dead over his "correctness" of the empty dates chart.

anyway, alex chiu stop his boards after too many mistakes in predictions.
he finished his site with this text:

we all know that alex chiu is a charlatan. so until you and other reliable scholars write better books, I am giving up using superiching.

I now use cards, but not exactly tarot cards.

you can see what I do at my forum:

http://jamesdvd.com/shai


anyway here what alex said about using china time:

" Why should you convert to Beijing time?

One day, a guy has emailed me a question:

* Alex, I don't understand why you are converting to Beijing time?! Beijing time has nothing to do with me where I live (East coast of USA). To get the true local time, I just convert it to the real time by longitude adjustment, not Beijing time.

Here is my reply to this man:

* I have been practicing I-Ching for 5 years. Based on what I know, you must convert to Beijing time or else your prediction won't be accurate. Let's say someone tossed the coins asking when will he receive some money. If you convert to Beijing time, the coins will show that he will receive the money on Friday. If you don't convert to Beijing time, the coins will say that the money will come on Saturday. So when exactly will the money arrive? Friday or Saturday? Guess what? The money will come on Friday. I have been doing this for 4 years. Based on my knowledge, if you don't convert to Beijing time, when you tell someone that he will receive the money on Saturday, the money will definitely come on Friday. If you don't convert to Beijing time, when you tell someone that he will die tomorrow, that person will definitely die today.

For example: I like a girl named Elsa a lot. So I tossed the coins asking when will I meet Elsa again. I got [Hide]. I expected to meet her within 10 days.
Year Month Date Hour Empty Dates
wa t - I sh & h


Hide
Hiders
P sh -
B s - U
R w -
B s -
G y R w -- J
P cn --

A strong G y hiding under the self line. G y woman star produces the self line R. On day y, G y will appear. So Elsa will appear on day y!

Result: She came over to my house on day y. It was a Saturday. If I did not convert to Beijing time, Saturday would have been day c. But the hexagram indicates that Elsa will appear on day y. You cannot find any indication showing you that Elsa will appear on day c. That means if I didn't convert to Beijing time, I would have made a huge error.

Another example: My web site has been shut down by my web host for sending out bulk email. I immediately switched to a new web host, but the web site won't be up for probably another day or two. So I tossed the coins asking when will my web site be up again, and I received [Extreme] and [Too much].
Year Month Date Hour Empty Dates
yo s - III cn & e

The self line has a strong K star. That means my worries will soon disappear. My web site should be back up sooner than I expected. The 1st line G t moves turning into B c which produces the self line's powerful K star. When a B star moves producing the self line's K star, I will become extremely happy. The 1st line will move either at hour t or at hour c. Therefore, my web site shall be up at hour t or at hour c. In California of USA, hour t is from 7 am to 9 am. Hour c is from 9 am to 11 am.

Result: My web site went back up at around 10:30 am. So my site went back up at hour c. If I did not convert to China's time zone, everything would have been wrong.

My business partner owes me money. I tossed the coins asking when will I speak to him about the money. I got [Touch] and [Rot].
Year Month Date Hour Empty Dates
c s - I w & wa

If the P star turns into the money star, I will speak to him about the money! P represents a conversation. If the conversation star turns into the money star, we will talk about money. The 5th line P e moves and turns into the money star. This means I will speak to him on day e. The 2nd line P w also moves and turns into the money star. This means I will also speak to him again on day w.

Result: My business partner phoned me on day e and on day w. (Thursday and Friday) He told me that he will send me the money right away. If I didn't convert to Beijing time, day e and day w would have been Friday and Saturday. But he phoned me on Thursday and on Friday.

China is just as wide as USA, but China has only one time zone while USA has 3 time zones. When it's 3 PM in Xin-jiang (the far West of China), it's also 3 PM in Beijing (Eastern border of China). China had this 'one time zone system' for many dynasties already. That means if China invades all the way to England, England will also share the same time zone with Beijing. The reason why the ancient Chinese persisted on this 'one time zone system' is because the ancient Chinese realized that there is only one time zone for I-Ching and for all other Chinese astrological divinations.

I have so many examples that I want to show you. But I don't want to waste your time by going on and on. I have been tossing the coins everyday for 5 years already. I live in San Francisco, California. Hundreds of my predictions concerning stuff like: 'On what day will I meet someone?' or 'On which day will I receive some money?' have already came true. So don't argue with a person who has done this thousands of times. If you screw up the timing, you screw up everything. Just follow the instruction and I guarantee you that you won't be disappointed."

Ah, now that we're on to the Empty Dates bit...

I'm thinking you guys used his method too right? I'm not sure, but I think Alex's interpretations might be a little wrong in the way he's used them. Not knocking the guy, but for me (I've only looked at some of his explanations/interpretations on the site), it looks like he was trying to make an explanation to fit the scenario's that happened. There are a couple of rules that he seemed to have forgotten or ignored in his FAQ on the empty date changes. Eg. Alex says that the sixth line was empty. And if it was empty, then it can't fulfill the scenario. Yet, there is a few rules such as a really strong line not being empty (it has the same branch as the month), or indeed, a moving line, not being (quite) empty. Which will change the interpretation and the way he gets the interpretation. Same result, but same way as the old traditional method of reading it.

Hmmm, I think I may end up doing a quick intro here. (It's getting very crowded with questions on this board here )

Any questions or queries about the I-Ching, you can ask my opinion here. Although I will say it right here, right now. I can not gauruntee that what I say is 100% accurate, but I will try my best to quote sources for you guys to look it up yourselves too.

UK Anon Hotmail User

Hi UK Anon

Am interested in "Wen Wang .. .." that you wrote. Can you please provide it for us? I think your Uni will be able to provide it to you, which you may make available to those who are interested. I thought scholary works should be made available upon request, else such knowledge will be a great lost to the society.

Actually I am trying to widen my knowledge on staff like Super Iching. But apart from Mr Alex Chiu's source, I can not find any availabel in Englsih. Probably there are some sources written in Mandarin but it will be no use to me, as I don't read or write in Mandarin.

Hope you can help or anyone who knows where additional sources are availabe in English.

Thanks

I'm afraid you'll fine my work that's at my Uni a little wanting for those that have a little background already in the use of "Wen Wang" or "Five Elements" style, to which you have already demonstrated some. It's probably better if you simply ask questions to me, and I'll try and find the sources in Chinese and traslate it for you instead.

The work there is really only for complete newbies. And only entrant level. Not for inetermediate, or Advanced people.

UK Anon Hotmail User